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My Japanese written final is tonight. I'd planned to use my lunch-break to study, but I keep being distracted by this shiny Internet thing.

Yet I'm still confused by the -ndesu form and when to use it versus when not to use it. Among other things. And I can't remember when to use the verb -ta form versus the -te form (resulting state? gerunds?), though I believe it has something to do with plain vs. polite, past and present forms and adding "kudasai" or "mo iidesuka" at the end versus "shimasu." Good thing I finished the undergrad thing long ago, right, and I'm only taking the class for fun? Still, some people are just obsessive enough to want an "A" anyway, and I would call those people ESTJs. Like me.

At least the oral interview is over. I tried to tell my teacher that my Japanese class was on Saturday, 'cause I can't separate ka-youbi (Tuesday) from do-youbi (Saturday) if I'm not looking at the kanji, but other than that, I didn't do too badly. I hope. :) Wish me luck.

Date: 2008-05-13 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 7veilsphaedra.livejournal.com
Oh, good luck! I hope you sort your Tuesdays from Saturdays in time. Wouldn't want you late for your written ... ;^}

Date: 2008-05-13 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Or really, really early? :) Thank you!

Date: 2008-05-13 08:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chomiji

Good luck!!!

(ESTJ? Huh ... I'm an INFP ... OMG, we're opposites!)

Date: 2008-05-13 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Wow, complete opposites! :) I was actually disappointed to discover that I was ESTJ. I thought I was the fun-loving, carefree type. Until I took several versions of the test and always came out firmly on the ESTJ side... and took an honest look at my life, and realized that Yes, I was that person. Sigh. ;)

Date: 2008-05-13 09:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chomiji

LOL ... INFP's aren't carefree ... one of the less flattering but rather accurate descriptions said this:

creative, smart, idealist, loner, attracted to sad things, disorganized, avoidant, can be overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings, prone to quitting, prone to feelings of loneliness, ambivalent of the rules, solitary, daydreams about people to maintain a sense of closeness, focus on fantasies, acts without planning, low self confidence, emotionally moody, can feel defective, prone to lateness, likes esoteric things, wounded at the core, feels shame, frequently losing things, prone to sadness ....

Date: 2008-05-13 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Well, that website doesn't pull any punches, does it? ;) "daydreams about people to maintain a sense of closeness" seems a unique thing to include in that list; I'm not sure I understand it. Any insight? Y'know, though a lot of those characteristics you posted I could say for myself, at different times. :) I lose stuff a lot.

I guess I wouldn't say that "not-ESTJ" doesn't mean "carefree;" but I always used to try and pretend I was spontaneous and a rule-breaker, when that is not the case. And looking at that website's description of ESTJ, I have to be thankful that I have enough creativity/looseness in me to appreciate weird people and things, unashamedly.

ESTJ: organized, group oriented, focused, conventional, leader, emotionally stable, anal, realistic, fearless, responsible, finisher, decisive, norm following, respects authority, punctual, hard working, stiff, self confident, thinks rules and regulations are important, social, content, does not like being alone, normal, does not like weird or strange people/things, strict, disciplined, aggressive, assertive, content, happy, strong sense of purpose

Ick! If I wasn't me, I'd probably want to kill me. :)

Date: 2008-05-13 10:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chomiji

Re "daydreams about people to maintain a sense of closeness" - I crave companionship constantly, although on one level it would drive me nuts to interact with someone all the time. But I'm always thinking about people - either friends or fictional characters - rather than working through problems or dreaming about being on a beach or something. I have conversations, I plan out e-mails, I imagine doing things with people, or I tell myself stories that involve emotional interactions. People and relationships are life, even though I'm an introvert. I love 'em, but they scare me (fear of rejection).

The carefree guys are the ESTPs. They take their sensing thing ("gimme what's real") and run it through the perceiving thing ("don't bother me with rules and expectations") and end up with "live for the moment, and f*ck everyone else if they can't take a joke!" (If Goku didn't care about Sanzo so much, he'd be a great ESTP.)

Date: 2008-05-13 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
I'd love to be that ESTP person, sometimes, and to get rid of the obligation. But I feel sorry for everyone around me just thinking about it. One thing I can say-- I'm freakin' reliable. ;)

That's interesting about the daydreaming-- thanks for explaining it. I guess it means that you'd be very thoughtful-- I mean, that things you want to say would be well planned out, as well as being a thinker and sympathetic-- and would be prepared for the interaction, when it came? I tend to be too straightforward and without that sympathetic/"think before you say it" filter, sometimes, and people are like "wtf did that bitch just say to me?" :)

Date: 2008-05-13 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedihealer.livejournal.com
Wow! I totally missed the fact that you were taking Japanese. Good for you. Break a leg.

Date: 2008-05-13 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Thanks! (Or Doumo Arigato Gozaimasu!) I hate to say I can't read the kanji in your icon-- either it's in cursive or I just don't know it. :) What is it?

Date: 2008-05-13 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedihealer.livejournal.com
Actually, I believe it is a Chinese character. It was the closest thing I had. It means "happiness".

Date: 2008-05-13 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Ahh, thanks! Actually, the Chinese and Japanese kanji characters are the same-- the Japanese totally borrowed all the Chinese characters, and their written language has a couple extra alphabets thrown in to form Japanese words out of the Chinese characters. :)

Date: 2008-05-14 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yav-14.livejournal.com
Good luck!

Date: 2008-05-14 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Thank you! I know I missed a couple of things... you know, when you're driving away and *facepalm*. :)
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