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YAY: I has finished my fic for [livejournal.com profile] 7thnight_smut. It's at this moment being cleared of plotholes and egregious grammatical errors by my beta, [livejournal.com profile] sharpeslass. I shall not divulge the final word-count but I'll say it's the longest thing I've written in the Saiyuki fandom. I sure hope my recipient doesn't hate it-- one never knows. Still, I'm just glad it's done. ::phew::

BOO: Apparently Jamba Juice's ad agency has totally ripped off artist/cartoonist David Rees with their latest ad campaign. (Found on [livejournal.com profile] urbaniak's journal-- http://urbaniak.livejournal.com/208277.html; warning on that link for language.) I guess some young ad executive was dying for ideas and decided that this Internet cartoonist would be obscure enough to rip off completely. It really ticks me off that this happens so often in our money-and-fame-driven society, though I am shocked it happens in our instantaneous-blogging Internet culture. I mean, maybe there's not much new under the sun. And the original cartoonist was using art from the public domain. But copying someone's stuff exactly? Slimy, I says. (Says the once-hopeful-ad-exec and writer. I changed my mind on careers but I still respect good advertising.)

Date: 2009-07-19 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whymzycal.livejournal.com
WOOOOO! You're AWESOME! And I'm totally envious. *eyes pathetic fic*

People are gross. I do not like them.

Date: 2009-07-20 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
The beta has cleared it for sending. Yay! And I'm sure yours is not pathetic!! You are just taking your time, right? RIGHT? ::hugs::

Some people are gross. And stupid.

Date: 2009-07-20 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whymzycal.livejournal.com
Sah-weeeeeeet! That's righteous! Ahahaha. Mine is still tiny. Tiiiiny! But yes, I'm taking my time. Good things come to those who wait and all that. *cough*

They are. *pokes them with a sharp stick*

Mwah!

Date: 2009-07-19 10:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rroselavy.livejournal.com
I'm amazed that people think it's okay to plagiarize. Even if the original artist is using art from the public domain, I'd venture it's still his style, no? That would be his intellectual property, then.

It's interesting. You and I both probably remember the huge ruckus that was raised when rap and hip-hop became popular--the sampling of songs and repackaging the samples into new original art did not come without cost to the up-and-coming artists. I get their argument that it was aural collage, and I think they had a valid point that they did have some creative license -- similar to transformative works, which is a kindly name for fanfiction.

The problem comes when profits are being made. I wonder if Picasso were doing his collages with French newspapers in today's climate, would he be sued?

I'm not making any strong statement (so what is my point, really?), except for this, where someone's intellectual property is causing someone else monetary profit, then there should be reparation ...

(And congratulations on finishing! I can't wait to read it!)
Edited Date: 2009-07-19 10:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-20 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
I know! It's like, if they work for a corporation or are hired by one, they feel they are free to rip off the little guys.

I do remember the sampling fiasco. (Sampled songs often annoy me-- especially "Under Pressure" becoming "Ice, Ice Baby." ::shudder::) They actually have to pay for the usage, now, right?

Fanfiction is totally without payment, except in the case of a few losers who try to sell their fanfiction, the doofuses you hear about now and then; I do believe it's different, like you say-- the problem comes when money comes into the picture.

(It's sent, woohoo! Thank you!!)

Date: 2009-07-20 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rotten1.livejournal.com
The longest thing you've written in the fandom... and it's already done? You're making me look lazy. :P

Seriously though, I feel bad that I haven't finished mine yet. I did get confirmation from KB that it's not from either of my betas though, so it should b fine to send it to you when I finally do finish it. It probably won't go over the requirement by much.

As for the other thing, I agree that it's different when you're making money off of someone else's work. It's normal for fans to like something and create fan-based works, but if you're going to get paid for something that uses someone else's work then you should get permission first... or at least make sure that person gets paid if their work is used.

And... some people actually charge for fanfics?! WTF, man?!

Date: 2009-07-20 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
The longest thing you've written in the fandom... and it's already done?

I'm lucky or maybe sloppy... I really cranked this puppy out. I just got the idea and ran with it. :)

Did you decide that your idea was AUish enough, then?

As far as selling fanfics, well, there are people who bind them and sell them (like doujinka do in Japan), but it's supposed to be fore "cost of printing" and not for profit. There have been people trying to sell their SW fanfics before on Amazon, and most recently, someone's been trying to sell a fanfic Twilight "sequel."

Date: 2009-07-20 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rotten1.livejournal.com
Sounds good.

It's actually not AUish at all... but it conforms with the request and there's no way I'm going to come up with anything better in time. I'm terribly uncreative right now. I hope the requester isn't too disappointed.

I never really did understand how doujinshi worked, do they just sell those to cover printing too? Because I've seen some that seem awfully high-priced.

You know, I really don't see the big deal about Twilight.

Date: 2009-07-20 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Well, it's an AU-specific exchange... if you want to send your idea to me, maybe I can help you brainstorm? :)

Doujinshi sold by their creators, either at Comic Markets in Japan, stores in Japan or on their personal websites, are not expensive. I'm talking five bucks or so, here.

It's when doujinshi sell out or are hard to find in the US that you encounter high prices from re-sellers. I sell my extras on E-bay, but I usually try to start them out at what I paid.

Date: 2009-07-20 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rotten1.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know... I guess I could. You want me to summarize it or something?

Oh, okay. That makes sense. 'Cause I don't think I've seen anything for less then fifteen or twenty bucks.

Date: 2009-07-20 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Sure-- e-mail me your prompt and a brief summary of what you're thinking/what you've got? :)

Date: 2009-07-20 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] error256.livejournal.com
YAY: Cheers!

BOO: It's disgusting. I wonder if these people really think that nobody will reveal them. If you don't have imagination, why would you work as an ad executive, designer etc.?

How is your ear?

Date: 2009-07-21 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Yay, I'm so glad it's done! AUs are fun but stressful... 'cause I'm not used to them. ;)

No shit-- please to have your own imagination, kthx.

Oh, pretty much the same! I've been doing what the doc said with all the "D" and stuff, hoping it's better in two weeks like she predicted. :) Thanks for asking!

Date: 2009-07-20 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharpeslass.livejournal.com
Your fic is so brilliant I could weep. Sooo good. The whole fandom is in for a massive treat.

Date: 2009-07-21 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Yours will be so cool also. I can't wait to read more. And thank you, dear, for reading mine. ::hugs::

Date: 2009-07-20 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seshats-prodigy.livejournal.com
Yay!! \o/ ♥

I am shamed. Mine's nowhere near complete (and isn't that long as of yet). I'm flitting back and forth between that and another fic for another fandom that's due around the same time! **dies**

Oh God... **headdesks** I need more hours in the freaking day!

But still, yay!! I can't wait to read it!! ^_^

Date: 2009-07-21 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedishampoo.livejournal.com
Oh, well, I am shamed because I thought about picking up another prompt, but I'm wimping out. I shall offer to pinch-hit, however. ;) And yeah, sometimes those fic exchanges all pile up! At the end of the year especially, there's Yuletide, Yuletide_smut, jedi__santa, etc.

Good luck and go you!

Date: 2009-07-21 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seshats-prodigy.livejournal.com
Thank you! **hugs** I'll certainly take all the luck I can get! ~_^
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